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There are things that other people do, that perhaps most of the people I know do all the time, that I have never done, or have done rarely.

One of those things would be, "go to a rock concert." Now, if electric-folk bands like Fairport Convention and Steeleye Span and the Oyster Band, or for that matter the Roches or Suzanne Vega, count as rock bands, then I've been to such concerts, though not for a long time. But if you mean a rock band, or even a pop band, in the stricter sense, then no, I have never been. Ever.

Until last Saturday. It was due to the blandishments of my editor at the San Mateo Daily Journal and of the conductor of the Redwood Symphony that I consented to review a concert at which the Symphony played the parts of the London classical session musicians who played such important parts in later Beatles songs, the parts of the Beatles themselves being taken by a group called the White Album Ensemble, which, as its name suggests, specializes in playing in concert the later songs that the Beatles never played in concert themselves.

Now, there are several reasons I don't attend rock concerts.

Most importantly, 1) I hate most of the music. Not the case with the Beatles. There's a few famous bands I like one or two songs by, even if I hate the rest (I do have to draw a blank with the Rolling Stones), but I actually like about 80% of the Beatles' songs, something I can say about only one other non-folkie rock band1; and, looking over the set list of this concert beforehand, I realized I could review this because, not only do I like most of the songs, I know all of them, the way I know classical pieces. I couldn't have done this if it were anybody's songs but the Beatles'.

2) They're too crowded and humongous, and the acoustics suck. But this was no horrible arena show2 - I wouldn't have gone to hear even the Beatles at an arena show, and after a while the Beatles couldn't stand to go either, which is why they stopped touring - it was at the old Fox Theatre in Redwood City, and it was only a tribute group. I thought it'd be manageable on all accounts, and it was.

3) Too expensive. Not if you've got a reviewer's comp ticket it isn't. And this was easily affordable anyway, cheaper than a lot of classical concerts.

4) Too loud. Well, that I was worried about, so I packed my industrial-strength earplugs, which I last used on Fairport Convention. I wore them about half the time. Though everything was amplified, some of the songs were not too loud: "When I'm 64" and "Martha My Dear" certainly weren't, not to mention "Eleanor Rigby" and, fer cryin' out loud, "Yesterday." By classical standards this was, at its most, a piercingly loud concert. By rock standards I expect it was very quiet.

Here's the review. It had to be brief, hard for me when there's 30 pieces in the show, but I hope it's clear I had a good time, especially because of what I dared to call the band's "classical aesthetic," which meant that their first priority was to play the song as written, not to jazzify it, which annoys me more than anything else in pop covers.

One thing I didn't have space for was to describe the band.3 There were eight guys in the ensemble on stage, and they split up the original Beatles' roles pretty extensively. Despite their fidelity to what I guess I should call the score, they made no attempt to imitate the individual character of the playing or singing, any more than classical musicians imitate the style of other players, and they didn't look like the Beatles at all. In fact, they looked like other people. The guy who sang Paul's parts looked like Pete Townshend. The guy who sang John's parts looked rather like Neil Young. The lead guitarist looked like David Bowie. The guy who stood in for the voices of both George and Ringo wore a cap like mine, dark glasses, and a mustache, and as a result looked as much like John Astin as anybody.

Anyway, they did some amazing things, which I also didn't have much space to describe. They actually played the outro to "Strawberry Fields", though they didn't attempt the one to "I Am the Walrus".

1. Anybody care to guess what the other band is? DGK knows.
2. When I was living in Seattle, some 33 1/3 years ago, the Rolling Stones came to town, and all of my friends just had to go. I was immune, not just because of the detestable band, but because of the venue, which was the domed pro football stadium. "You know the acoustics are going to suck," I told my friends, and they nodded; they knew. Afterwards I asked various of them how the concert was, and they all began by saying that the acoustics really sucked.
3. In an unsuccessful search for good and appropriate photos of the band online - in the end, the print edition published the review without photos - I took to Googling the names of individual band members, and found out that one of them is a registered sex offender. (He pleaded no contest.) I really didn't want to know that. But I guess even they need jobs.

Date: 2013-08-17 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sartorias.livejournal.com
I think I would have enjoyed that, from your description.

Date: 2013-08-17 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barondave.livejournal.com
I collect covers, though not tributes. There have been many songs I've had two or three covers/parodies of and not the original. For the most part, I avoid Top-40 radio.

I'm going to take a semi-wide stab at your other rock band: The Beach Boys.

Date: 2013-08-17 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalimac.livejournal.com
My deep and horrid confusion regarding covers: I prefer Arlo Guthrie singing "City of New Orleans" to Steve Goodman. I feel I should be drummed out of the union of True Folkies for that.

Not the Beach Boys. They have some agreeable songs, but I think of them mostly as purveyors of annoying earworms. Not a 60s group. (My favorite 60s group that isn't the Beatles is the Hollies.)

And I should add: Not a well-known group, either. My estimate is that when its name is mentioned, 90% of people will say "who?" and the other 10% will say, "oh yeah, they're great."
Edited Date: 2013-08-17 10:33 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-08-18 02:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barondave.livejournal.com
I haven't heard a bad version of "City of New Orleans", so don't think you'll be drummed out for liking Arlo best.

Sometimes, covers are better than the original. I didn't like the Talking Heads version, but I really like Big Daddy (starts softly):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXE953qPVZE

I almost guessed The Holies. Alas. Okay, another guess: Soft Machine... hmm, no, they were 60s. X-Ray Spex? Yes, I'm kidding. Oh well.

Date: 2013-08-18 03:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalimac.livejournal.com
Oh, well, Big Daddy is sui generis. What they do to songs, which is similar to scientists mating a monkey with a jellyfish, is entirely unlike what the kind of cover performers who screw songs up do.

I should also mention Weird Al, whose performances, judged purely musically, not only perfectly replicate the originals, they're often actually better.

Date: 2013-08-17 10:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sturgeonslawyer.livejournal.com
Jefferson Airplane?

Date: 2013-08-17 10:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalimac.livejournal.com
Jefferson Airplane is what I first had in mind when I wrote of "a few famous bands I like one or two songs by, even if I hate the rest." There's 4 songs by them I really like - my absolute favorite is "Lather" - and enough tolerably really early ones to fill out an LP side, but everything else by them I can't stand.

You ought to know the subfield where my group lies: it's a field you gave me much guidance in. Not a 60s group.

Date: 2013-08-18 04:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalimac.livejournal.com
I tried to reply to the comment that you left on the article, but got trapped in circular-computer hell, where it kept sending me back to the same "verify" page and wouldn't post the comment.

Anyway, to your comment that "Yesterday" had been performed live by the Beatles, I wanted to write:

The Ensemble specializes in songs never performed live by the Beatles, but they are not contractually forbidden from playing others. It was clear that this song was outside their normal performing repertoire.

There's a live performance of "Yesterday" on the Beatles Anthology. It makes eerie listening, because the audience is trying to scream at Paul, but you can't scream to "Yesterday" - it doesn't work.

Date: 2013-08-18 12:44 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
"DGK knows." Maybe I did at one time, but at this late date I'm drawing a blank. I'm guessing somebody I played for you. U2? R.E.M.? Not sure.

I doubt I would have enjoyed that show, though. One of the key things about the Beatles was that they were one of the greatest live bands of their era (never saw them in person, but it's clear from the recorded performances). Even good musicians playing the music note for note is not going to have the same synergy as the original band.

(Not that I dislike covers on principle: most of Tori Amos' are outstanding.)

I'll conclude by saying that the experience of seeing a small-time band in a small venue (rock club, etc.) is very different from either a classical concert or a "rock [arena] concert," and to me preferable to either. (You may or may not remember that I had no interest in that Rolling Stones concert you mention.)

Don Keller

Date: 2013-08-18 03:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalimac.livejournal.com
Oh, yes, you do.

Returning to the Beatles and their imitators, if I wanted the original band I could, as the girls who screamed at them replied when told that the music was inaudible through the screaming, just stay home and listen to the records. If I want live, I had to take this, and live, as long experience with classical has taught me, has a sizzle that records just don't, even if the record is a better performance.

But actually I thought the synergy at this concert was very good. As I pointed out in the review, everything happened exactly when it was supposed to; and it didn't drag. Those are the essential ingredients for me.
Edited Date: 2013-08-18 03:22 am (UTC)

Date: 2013-08-18 03:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barondave.livejournal.com
Hmm... cheating a bit, because that band started in 1969 and I tend to think of them in the same breath as Fairport Convention and SSpan.

Getting back, simultaneously, to The Beatles and covers, I've never heard a bad cover of "Eleanor Rigby". No, that's not a challenge to find me one. It's my favorite Beatles song, a co-fave w/"While My Guitar Gently Weeps", and many groups do exceptional versions.

I couldn't find the Boyz2Men version online, so here's local MN a cappella group Tonic Sol-Fa:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNzDK8JLoJI

Aside: Is there an accepted canonical way to spell a cappella?

Date: 2013-08-18 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalimac.livejournal.com
No more a Sixties band than the Beatles were a FIfties band, and for the same reason. Likewise Steeleye Span, which also started in 1969, and likewise underwent great convulsions in membership and style before settling down to its most characteristic work in the early 70s.

To clarify the point, of those bands that were Sixties bands that stuck around into the 70s, like the Hollies, they'd done most of their best and most characteristic work in the 60s.

I've never heard any cover versions of "Eleanor Rigby" before. This one is what I call "jazzified".

You spelled a cappella right. Sometimes I see acappella.

Date: 2013-08-18 06:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] barondave.livejournal.com
Hmm... I suppose it's a matter of how you define "60s music". I tend to think of 60s music as starting with the Beatles and going to the Sex Pistols. With very rough bits around the edges. This nicely maps to my political definition of "the 60s", which runs from Kennedy's Assassination to Nixon's resignation.

I don't think this is any more arbitrary than using the calendar numbers. Some types of music group together and help define the era. I tend to be a history-of-tenchology guy, and this maps reasonably well to the rise of stereo (the first two Beatles records were released in mono) and the rise of FM radio. (50s music starts with the rise of the transistor radio.) I'm sure you could make the same kinds of distinctions in classical music on which instruments have been invented.

I've seen various spellings of acappella, acapella etc. I was most concerned about the two you mention. "From the head", iirc, because the church didn't allow musical instruments.

Date: 2013-08-18 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalimac.livejournal.com
Yeah, there's a sense in which you can say that, but the default has to be the chronological decade.

Date: 2013-08-18 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
Now that you mention it . . . but of course.

DGK

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