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It was Fourth of July yesterday, a holiday in these parts, and many were out in the back yard hovering over the grill, which will happen occasionally for the rest of the summer, as we have it in these parts.

Some may also be seeking out barbecue, which is not the same thing as grilling although they're often confused, and since barbecuing is slow and complex, one seeks a good barbecue restaurant.

But not, in my experience, around here. The Bay Area seems strangely bereft of good barbecue. (And we also rank low on other American regional cooking. Asian, though - of any possible variety - that we've got in profusion.)

So I find this list of "Where to find barbecue in the Bay Area". But it doesn't say good barbecue. Now, I haven't been to all of these places, and some of them might be good. But I have been to four of them in the Bay Area (nos. 1, 4, 15, and 20), all of them highly recommended to me, and all of them "eh ... ok" except for no. 20 which was dreadful. So I agree with no. 13, which was the post saying "I'm continually disappointed in barbecue" here.

There is one place on the list I found good. It's no. 22, which is in Calistoga. By my South Bay standards, that's way out on the outskirts, not really in the Bay Area. What I've been telling people is that, if they want good barbecue, they have to go way out ... to Sacramento. Or Modesto. Or Castroville. Or Calistoga. I've found good barbecue in all those places.

What do I consider good barbecue, and what's lacking in the inner Bay Area places? Three things: good barbecue must be 1) tender, 2) juicy, 3) flavorful.

Date: 2016-07-05 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athenais.livejournal.com
Calistoga is not the Bay Area, it's 85 miles from where I live. That's like saying Monterey is part of the Bay Area. But if I were out in Napa Valley already I'd certainly be willing to drive up there for good barbecue. I really wish we had it around here. I do miss that from living in Nashville.

Date: 2016-07-06 07:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] voidampersand.livejournal.com
Armadillo Willy's does not seem to be on the list. Not that it is great, but it is reliably good.

I'm pretty sure Emil Villa's in Hayward is what's left of the old Hick'ry Pit chain. Probably worth checking out.

Henry's Hi-Life has real character. I wouldn't go there just for the barbecue, but it's a fun place to go for the experience.

The very best barbecue I had was in a small town in Texas. George W. Bush country. You couldn't pay me to live there. I am much happier here in the Bay Area, even if the barbecue is not fabulous.

Date: 2016-07-06 03:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sturgeonslawyer.livejournal.com
H'mmm. If you didn't like Everett and Jones, I don't know what you call tender juicy and flavorful. Have you tried T-Rex Barbecue in Berkeley? They make a pretty good pulled pork...

Date: 2016-07-06 04:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalimac.livejournal.com
The meat was chewy, and rather undercooked. The opposite of tender. The sauce, though tasty, was watery: not very flavorful.
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