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Whatever you may think of the British monarchy, Queen Elizabeth II didn't make it that way and it was not in her power to change it fundamentally. All she could do was be the best Queen she could, and I think she did pretty well: presiding, not ruling, and doing it with dignity and not behaving as if it was a total waste of her time.

Seventy years of it. And she was on the job to the end, commissioning a new prime minister only two days ago. (That makes 15 different ones in her reign, 3 of them women.) She was 96. Some were expecting her to go on a lot longer: her mother lived to be 101.

And now, King Charles III. Some wondered if he'd take that name. After all, the first two Charleses were hardly ideal models of royalty, and the name "Charles III" already had a smudge on it, being the term the Jacobites used for Bonnie Prince Charlie after his father, the Old Pretender, died.

But it's usual for the monarch to take his or her own name. Some articles have implied it's not, but the circumstances in which a king took a different name were rare and unusual. (In both cases it was a prince named Albert, due to Victoria's attempt to honor her husband. Both thought a King Albert was inappropriate, and took a middle name instead. Also, Victoria was actually her middle name (her first was Alexandrina), but she'd been called Victoria from childhood.

When Elizabeth became Queen, some expected her to take another name. There'd been only one Queen Elizabeth; was there the nerve to change that? But the Queen said it was her name and she was keeping it, and it turned out not to be much trouble to refer to the earlier monarch as Elizabeth I.

The official accession is a meeting of the Privy Council, probably tomorrow. The coronation comes later. It's a big ceremony but it doesn't mark the beginning of the reign. The Privy Council does that. By the way, I'd like to inform the radio announcer who was blabbing about it that the verb form of what the monarch gets at the coronation isn't "coronated." It's "crowned."

The Duke of Cambridge is now also Duke of Cornwall. That's automatic. But he doesn't get to be Prince of Wales unless and until the monarch says so. Elizabeth waited several years before giving that title to the (admittedly then very young) Charles.

Date: 2022-09-09 05:16 am (UTC)
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I think the Queen was an amazing human. If we were rolling dice for a Dungeons and Dragons character the Queen would have a charisma score of about 15 out of 10 points. She was a master of manipulation. Such people in public office are incredibly dangerous, but I think that danger was overcome by her humility and dedication to humanity as she saw it. Certainly the world would have been a grimmer and less compassionate place without her.
If the world had to have another highly charismatic leader I'm glad it was Elisabeth; who not only modeled a personal fashion and work ethic that was amazing; she also worked really hard to bring people together and celebrate diversity. I'm so glad she was not another Hitler.
Charles hasn't a hope of even beginning to live up to his mother. even though I respect his learning and early adoption of many environmental ethos. Maybe one of the kids will have the charisma to be better loved than Charles. Not holding my breath on this one tho. I think Elisabeth was on of those people you only get every several hundred years or so.

Date: 2022-09-09 09:30 am (UTC)
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Elizabeth II & I to be precise as many a Scot will tell you!

Charles has been an ill favoured name in many European monarchies.

The one I feel sorriest for is Carlos II Habsburg of Spain- born mentally disabled and intersexed.

Date: 2022-09-09 11:31 am (UTC)
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Don't try this argument with any Scots you happen to meet! :o)

Sir always refers to her as Elizabeth I.

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