to filk or not to filk
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calimacI was a little nervous when I found the history of filk music - the folk music of SF fandom - by Gary McGath. I had something to do with a stretch of that history, and I wondered what he'd say. I had not been interviewed for or contacted about the writing of this.
I'm pleased to say, it's pretty good, although he mangles my name. Nobody calls me Dave, at least not to my face.
McGath is fundamentally accurate about the origin of The Westerfilk Collection and the allocation of tasks in compiling it. Perhaps more emphasis could have been placed on the fact that Jordin Kare was the initiator and principal force behind the project. Jordin had come to UC Berkeley from MIT in the fall of 1978 and quickly joined local fannish and filking circles. He was used to organized Massachusetts filking, where they had things like the NESFA Hymnal, a full-scale songbook, and when he found that we were disorganized, yet had songs known not in Massachusetts, he formed the idea of a west-coast songbook. He proposed this at a local housefilk and asked if anybody wanted to help. Teri Lee and I volunteered, and that's how we became the three editors of the Westerfilk. There turned out not to be time to compile it before the 1979 Westercon in San Francisco, though we did produce some songsheets then, and it came out the following year.
McGath is also correct that the Westerfilk was, in essence, the first work issued by Off Centaur Publications, before Off Centaur actually existed. Teri (who became the central figure of the company) and Jordin carried on directly from the initiative of the Westerfilk. Although I did some work for Off Centaur, mostly research on legal rights to songs, I was not directly involved because I had gone off to grad school in Seattle. Catherine Cook, who was a partner in Off Centaur, had also helped with the Westerfilk, though she was not credited as an editor. As the most easily available person who was actually a musician, which none of us three were (Jordin later learned the guitar, but he hadn't picked that up yet), Cathy was recruited by Teri to help with music notation and to provide complex things like guitar chordings.
McGath mentions Jeff Rogers, noting that he was not a partner, but he was literally a central figure. It's true, as McGath says, that Off Centaur specialized in studio recordings, but it made live tapes too. As the house recording engineer, Jeff was typically in the middle of the song circle at every event, crouched over his equipment, headphones on his ears and blissful smile on his face as he listened to the quality of the audio feed.
Regarding the breakup of Off Centaur some years later, about which McGath is reticent, all I should say is that I was at one time friends, often close friends, with just about everyone involved, and I'm just sorry it happened. I was long gone by the time of the breakup, but I had smelled something sulfurous in the air some years earlier, which was the main reason I quit filking.
The other reason I quit was a growing dismay with what we, by which I'm including myself, had done to filking. I don't think McGath gives sufficient emphasis to the suddenness and the dramatic intensity with which filking changed from a thing that fans occasionally did spontaneously at parties, to an organized, full-scale sub-fandom with its own clubs, fanzines, cons, and BNFs. In the Bay Area it happened, I think, in the fall of 1978. At a filk in the back room of a party at Octocon in Santa Rosa, somebody said: wouldn't it be great if we got together regularly?, a sign-up sheet was passed around, and the next thing I knew I got a postcard inviting me to a housefilk at Jeff Rogers' apartment in Berkeley. It was here that I met the local filkers I didn't already know through SF fandom, and it was at these early sessions that the Westerfilk was hatched.
What's weird is that simultaneously the same thing was going on elsewhere: in LA, with which we quickly established diplomatic relations, in various places in the midwest, and others that we didn't even yet know about, and Margaret Middleton's Kantele was hitting the mailboxes. It was a flood. Housefilks, all-night con filks (the late-night character of con filking was never planned, it grew spontaneously from filks starting in mid-evening and just not stopping), and then whole cons devoted just to filking. Off Centaur's, and then others', tapes and songbooks met a crying need.
For a while it seemed great. Then I noticed that it was eating itself. I got into filking because I enjoyed belting out old favorites. Every once in a while, sure, a new song or two, but that wasn't the emphasis. But when people filked constantly, they got tired of the old songs. The throughput of filking began moving at an astonishing rate. People craved new songs, and then after a few rounds they'd discard them for the next batch. Running out of standard tunes to write parody lyrics to, they began attacking any new serious songs that the songwriters in filk presented. As a once-in-a-while thing, this was funny, but it got ridiculous.
For me, the final straw came the first time a neo came across Leslie Fish's "Banned from Argo" in the Westerfilk, correctly perceived that this was a great song, and asked for it at a filk, only to be met by groans and cries of "ugh, not that again." "Banned from Argo" was, at least at the time, the best filksong ever. If you're tired of that, you're filking too much. (If you don't know it and are curious, here's a recording, slightly abridged. Although the lyrics are ST:TOS-allusive, the video clips are from Firefly, which work surprisingly well.)
I took my own advice and decamped before I too became a jaded zombie. As the car then sped on at top gear without me, I judged it too late to catch up later. Whenever any filkers ask me to return, which happens about once a decade, I ask them, "Are people still tired of 'Banned from Argo'?" And nothing has changed.
More on a later post: about Leslie Fish, and about Bardic Circles.
I'm pleased to say, it's pretty good, although he mangles my name. Nobody calls me Dave, at least not to my face.
McGath is fundamentally accurate about the origin of The Westerfilk Collection and the allocation of tasks in compiling it. Perhaps more emphasis could have been placed on the fact that Jordin Kare was the initiator and principal force behind the project. Jordin had come to UC Berkeley from MIT in the fall of 1978 and quickly joined local fannish and filking circles. He was used to organized Massachusetts filking, where they had things like the NESFA Hymnal, a full-scale songbook, and when he found that we were disorganized, yet had songs known not in Massachusetts, he formed the idea of a west-coast songbook. He proposed this at a local housefilk and asked if anybody wanted to help. Teri Lee and I volunteered, and that's how we became the three editors of the Westerfilk. There turned out not to be time to compile it before the 1979 Westercon in San Francisco, though we did produce some songsheets then, and it came out the following year.
McGath is also correct that the Westerfilk was, in essence, the first work issued by Off Centaur Publications, before Off Centaur actually existed. Teri (who became the central figure of the company) and Jordin carried on directly from the initiative of the Westerfilk. Although I did some work for Off Centaur, mostly research on legal rights to songs, I was not directly involved because I had gone off to grad school in Seattle. Catherine Cook, who was a partner in Off Centaur, had also helped with the Westerfilk, though she was not credited as an editor. As the most easily available person who was actually a musician, which none of us three were (Jordin later learned the guitar, but he hadn't picked that up yet), Cathy was recruited by Teri to help with music notation and to provide complex things like guitar chordings.
McGath mentions Jeff Rogers, noting that he was not a partner, but he was literally a central figure. It's true, as McGath says, that Off Centaur specialized in studio recordings, but it made live tapes too. As the house recording engineer, Jeff was typically in the middle of the song circle at every event, crouched over his equipment, headphones on his ears and blissful smile on his face as he listened to the quality of the audio feed.
Regarding the breakup of Off Centaur some years later, about which McGath is reticent, all I should say is that I was at one time friends, often close friends, with just about everyone involved, and I'm just sorry it happened. I was long gone by the time of the breakup, but I had smelled something sulfurous in the air some years earlier, which was the main reason I quit filking.
The other reason I quit was a growing dismay with what we, by which I'm including myself, had done to filking. I don't think McGath gives sufficient emphasis to the suddenness and the dramatic intensity with which filking changed from a thing that fans occasionally did spontaneously at parties, to an organized, full-scale sub-fandom with its own clubs, fanzines, cons, and BNFs. In the Bay Area it happened, I think, in the fall of 1978. At a filk in the back room of a party at Octocon in Santa Rosa, somebody said: wouldn't it be great if we got together regularly?, a sign-up sheet was passed around, and the next thing I knew I got a postcard inviting me to a housefilk at Jeff Rogers' apartment in Berkeley. It was here that I met the local filkers I didn't already know through SF fandom, and it was at these early sessions that the Westerfilk was hatched.
What's weird is that simultaneously the same thing was going on elsewhere: in LA, with which we quickly established diplomatic relations, in various places in the midwest, and others that we didn't even yet know about, and Margaret Middleton's Kantele was hitting the mailboxes. It was a flood. Housefilks, all-night con filks (the late-night character of con filking was never planned, it grew spontaneously from filks starting in mid-evening and just not stopping), and then whole cons devoted just to filking. Off Centaur's, and then others', tapes and songbooks met a crying need.
For a while it seemed great. Then I noticed that it was eating itself. I got into filking because I enjoyed belting out old favorites. Every once in a while, sure, a new song or two, but that wasn't the emphasis. But when people filked constantly, they got tired of the old songs. The throughput of filking began moving at an astonishing rate. People craved new songs, and then after a few rounds they'd discard them for the next batch. Running out of standard tunes to write parody lyrics to, they began attacking any new serious songs that the songwriters in filk presented. As a once-in-a-while thing, this was funny, but it got ridiculous.
For me, the final straw came the first time a neo came across Leslie Fish's "Banned from Argo" in the Westerfilk, correctly perceived that this was a great song, and asked for it at a filk, only to be met by groans and cries of "ugh, not that again." "Banned from Argo" was, at least at the time, the best filksong ever. If you're tired of that, you're filking too much. (If you don't know it and are curious, here's a recording, slightly abridged. Although the lyrics are ST:TOS-allusive, the video clips are from Firefly, which work surprisingly well.)
I took my own advice and decamped before I too became a jaded zombie. As the car then sped on at top gear without me, I judged it too late to catch up later. Whenever any filkers ask me to return, which happens about once a decade, I ask them, "Are people still tired of 'Banned from Argo'?" And nothing has changed.
More on a later post: about Leslie Fish, and about Bardic Circles.
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Date: 2015-02-18 10:22 pm (UTC)I'm not terribly fond of actual filk circles (I've only been to three, I think) because they are so small and patchy these days. Also, I do not sing. It is best if I do not sing.
So hearing from one who was THERE is fascinating. I know it was all different in the dim and misty past, and I keep wishing I could have been a fly on the wall.
Or at least wishing I had had enough money to digitize all of those tapes before they disintegrated. I'm trying, right now, to re-create my lost collection that went the way of the dinosaur when my hard drive exploded. Sigh. Not everything is out on CD.
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Date: 2015-02-23 07:50 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-02-23 08:14 pm (UTC)It's an interesting perspective.
I can see how, from the point of view of someone who found filk when it was in its infancy, and focused around singing the same songs over and over, the more modern microfandom, with a greater emphasis on new songs and a much larger and diverse community would seem like it had jumped the shark.
Personally, I love it. Sure, some songs will sometimes get past their sell-by date for a while. Not anyway as much as BFA did -- but Still Alive was overfilked for a while, as was Frozen's Let it Go (although people will still sing them, and filks of them, and filks about how there are too many filks of both). But where you see a bunch of "jaded zombies", I see a living, vibrant community, embracing artists such as Seanan McGuire, Vixy & Tony, Sooj, Mary Crowell, and more.
Filking -has- changed. There are a greater percentage of original songs (not all of which get pounced upon by parodists, although when you have a good idea, you have an idea), and high end musicality is much more common than it was when I started in the early 90s. Jamming culture is, as far as I can tell, much more of a thing as well, and unless someone seems very unsure or had what is clearly an indivisible arrangement, people will often join in in-circle with a new or old song, making it something new with harmony lines and insturmentation. Hymnals have long since fallen out of disfavor; there are just too many songs; instead people will sing out of their own books, ask for lyrics to a half-remembered song, or often, look it up online.
The filking world is bigger. And yes, absolutely different. But not, I think, by any means worse.
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Date: 2015-02-23 08:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2015-02-23 08:24 pm (UTC)The jaded zombies are those who are tired of good songs because they've heard them too often. My opinion, as I said, is that they're filking too much. I have the same opinion of the jaded zombies of classical music, the "not Tchaikovsky again" crowd.
And that has lasted. My last direct inquiry of a group of filkers who sought my return was five years ago, but what they said to my queries convinced me that the clash between newcomers who are charmed by the older songs, and the Old And Tired filkers who only have an appetite for the new, and throw everything out after a few months, hadn't changed in 20 years.
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Date: 2015-02-23 09:05 pm (UTC)I don't think that the "jaded zombies" are filking too much so much as they're treading and retreading the same material too much. I'll avoid going to every concert the same performer gives for similar reasons; as much as like Tom Smith's work (for instance), a lot of his concerts are going to be self-similar, so I'll happily skip some of them and do something else until I'm ready to hear his current repetoire with new ears again.
One counter-meme I've seen (and helped spread, because it was well overdue) is "don't do the same melody more than two or at most three times in a row." I think a lot of the overdone-ness of BFA was not just that the song itself was over-done, but that parodies of it were incessant, popular, and long. I remember, in the early 90s, strings of people singing parody after parody of the same work, and it really did get wearying at times, even more than maintaining the same theme for hours on end (unless it's a theme you really like, in which case it can be fine).
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Date: 2015-02-23 09:27 pm (UTC)Very wise. That's what I recommend to anyone finding themselves tired of music they used to like.
The idea of multiple parodies of the same original filksong was just beginning to gain traction when I skedaddled out of there.