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Does anybody around here like Bartók? I mean, really like Bartók?

Date: 2014-01-13 05:21 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-01-13 05:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalimac.livejournal.com
To my great regret, you are not "around here," which I meant geographically.

Date: 2014-01-13 05:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com
Shame!

I thought you meant around here as in on this here thing here! :o)

Date: 2014-01-13 06:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] athenais.livejournal.com
I really like his string quartets. I used to own a recording of them. But I've never warmed up to much else he did.

Date: 2014-01-13 07:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] davesmusictank.livejournal.com
I like Bartok esp Bluebeard's Castle

Date: 2014-01-13 07:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cmcmck.livejournal.com
Now there's good taste- my favourite opera!

Date: 2014-01-14 01:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] irontongue.livejournal.com
Hell, yes. Love, in fact.

Date: 2014-01-14 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] irontongue.livejournal.com
Love Bluebeard, love the piano concertos, love the string quartets. Love almost everything else.

Date: 2014-01-14 02:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chorale.livejournal.com
Could you recommend a piece to start listening to him with (because I am totally unfamiliar with Bartok)?

Date: 2014-01-14 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] irontongue.livejournal.com
If you like opera, Bluebeard's Castle, which is one of the greatest 20th c. operas; get Kertesz's recording with Berry and Ludwig. The piano concertos, and start listening with the 3rd. I like pianist Zoltan Kocsis's set on Philips and the set Boulez conducts with Zimerman, Andsnes, and Grimaud.

All of these are comparatively short. Bluebeard fits on one CD; all three of the concertos do too.

Bluebeard has been making the rounds of US orchestras in the five years. It is short, has two characters only, and works well in concert or semi-staged. If you ever get a chance to see it live, get tickets, because it is gorgeous and makes a great impact in person.

Date: 2014-01-14 03:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalimac.livejournal.com
The Third Piano Concerto is, as irontongue suggested, an excellent piece of Bartok to begin with. And if you then listen to the First and the Second Concertos (in that order), you will have experienced a miniature outline of his stylistic evolution.

The most user-friendly work of Bartok's, though, is the Concerto for Orchestra. I go for that.

Date: 2014-01-14 04:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] irontongue.livejournal.com
Mileage varies; it took me a long time (and the help of Karel Ancerl) to warm to the Concerto for Orchestra. It is a piece I should have ten recordings of, but I don't, so I have a sort of an anti recommendation only: the legendary Reiner/CSO recording is monophonic and should not be anyone's first performance of the piece. Boulez has recorded it twice, with the NY Phil when he was their music director 40 years ago, and more recently with the CSO. I expect they are both worth hearing; the CSO is fantastic with him in the first piano concerto.

Date: 2014-01-15 01:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chorale.livejournal.com
Thank you!

Date: 2014-01-15 02:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chorale.livejournal.com
Thank you! Piano is one of my favorite instruments. (The others being glass harmonium and electric guitar, but I expect you wouldn't like the last in that list.)
Edited Date: 2014-01-15 02:08 am (UTC)

Date: 2014-01-15 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chorale.livejournal.com
Thanks for your input. Am I correctly understanding you as saying that the NY Philharmonic's performance is the one I should listen to first because it is stereophonic?

Date: 2014-01-15 02:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] irontongue.livejournal.com
No. I am saying either Boulez, not the Rainer.

Date: 2014-01-15 03:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kalimac.livejournal.com
You might be surprised. I am a big fan of Bob Johnson of Steeleye Span. I like rock music, but it has to be good rock music, which eliminates 99.9% of it right there. What remains, though, is choice.

Date: 2014-01-15 02:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chorale.livejournal.com
Got it. Thank you!

Date: 2014-01-15 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chorale.livejournal.com
Ooh, I haven't thought about Steeleye Span in ages. I'll have to dig them out from my vinyl collection. *goes away humming*
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