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I'm not going to name this book, because I haven't finished reading it yet, but it's not the only recent book on Tolkien to begin by rudely and inaccurately denouncing all previous Tolkien studies for failing to fit the standards of the author's own perfect and unimpeachable work.

Once it gets past that, it does have some interesting and original things to say, but I was stopped cold by this sentence:
Merry ... finally contributes to the fighting in a decisive way, using his magic sword to slay the Black Rider, thus saving Éowyn's life.
There are about three things wrong with this sentence.

First and least importantly, "Black Rider" is rather an obsolete term to use for the Nazgûl at this point. The horses which originally earned them that description from the hobbits disappeared long ago at the Ford of Bruinen. True, the Nazgûl still has a steed in the form of that monstrous flying creature, but even though Tolkien still uses the term "Black Rider" for him, more often he's the Ringwraith or the Lord of the Nazgûl, better choices for describing the scene.

Secondly, "magic sword." That's a clumsy and inappropriate term. The blacksmith whose country's enemy was the Witch-king of Angmar did not cast a spell when forging this sword. Its particular virtue and appropriateness for this deed is subtler than that. Read Tolkien's description:
So passed the sword of the Barrow-downs, work of Westernesse. But glad would he have been to know its fate who wrought it slowly long ago in the North-kingdom when the Dúnedain were young, and chief among their foes was the dread realm of Angmar and its sorcerer king. No other blade, not though mightier hands had wielded it, would have dealt that foe a wound so bitter, cleaving the undead flesh, breaking the spell that knit his unseen sinews to his will.
"Magic sword," with its implications of cheap hack fantasy, doesn't do it justice. Sam and Galadriel's conversation about "Elf-magic" should have taught you that, if nothing else.

Thirdly and most importantly, Merry doesn't slay the Nazgûl! Merry, who's been crawling on all fours, sick with horror, manages to stab the Nazgûl in the leg from behind. The Nazgûl topples forward, and Éowyn, struggling up from her knees, raises her sword - which has no particular animus against the Witch-king - and drives it into what passes as his face. Éowyn kills him; Merry provides essential assistance. It's all very clear on the page. Read the fricking book before you try writing detailed analysis of the author's prose, why don't you?

Date: 2024-06-09 07:53 pm (UTC)
cmcmck: (Default)
From: [personal profile] cmcmck
And of course we can't have a woman warrior dealing the death blow, can we?

Date: 2024-06-10 11:29 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sturgeonslawyer
H'mmm. I have always read that passage to suggest that the person who "wrought it slowly" was, at the very least, near Elvish levels of craft. And while I would not use the word "magic," I have to say that a blade specifically wrought to "[break] the spell that knit his unseen sinews to his will" is more than an ordinary sword. My reading is that, if not for Merry's blow, Eowyn's -- even had she managed to rise and stab him inna face -- would have been in vain. (Or vein. Hers, most likely.)

Date: 2024-06-11 03:26 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sturgeonslawyer
I want to be clear that I am not suggesting that Merry's sword was "magical" in the sense used by writers of generic extruded fantasy product or tabletop roleplaying games.

I also agree that the sword did not have the Witch-king's name writ on it or any nonsense like that.

But it is clear that there was something unique about this particular sword. I imagine that any smith in such a dire war would have made more than one sword. There were, then, other blades by that smith around (possibly being chucked at would-be kings by aquatic bints). But:
No other blade, not though mightier hands had wielded it, would have dealt that foe a wound so bitter, cleaving the undead flesh, breaking the spell that knit his unseen sinews to his will.

This implies that no other blade made by the same smith, though wrought with the same "animosity towards that enemy" which "clearly went into the making of his swords." In short, there is something quite unique about this sword, which I suggest arises from a smith, however briefly, rising to something akin to what the Elves know is not "magic" but craft. Perhaps, in a lesser way, it is that smith's equivalent to the Silmarils, a work that can only be made once; perhaps he somehow imbued it with his hatred for Angmar. I don't know, and don't claim to know; I only know that that sword, and no other, could have "unknit" the Witch-king's spells of protection.
Edited Date: 2024-06-11 03:27 am (UTC)

Date: 2024-06-11 10:38 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sturgeonslawyer
Bah. The claims that Bombadil and Treebeard are eldest come from their respective mouths; "no other sword" comes from the narrator. I refuse to believe that Tolkien used the unreliable narrator trope.

Date: 2024-06-11 11:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sturgeonslawyer
H'mmm. I confess to misremembering who said that Treebeard was oldest. The Elves I chose not to mention: the point of view is that it is always in the mouth of characters, who may be wrong -- at least one of them certainly is (unless someone wants to try to make a case that Treebeard is Bombadil in Ent-drag).

This is important, because Tolkien uses (at least) two types of narrative voice, or perhaps mood is the better word:
  1. The limited PoV, in which he narrates what one (usually) character sees/hears/feels/knows/etc. This is the mood he mostly uses in The Hobbit and, if I am not mistaken, in LotR -- I could be mistaken about the latter; it's been nearly a quarter-century since I last reread it, mostly, I suspect, from fear of "colonization."
  2. The omniscient narrator directly addressing the reader to give some "facts" about the world or situation that may not even be known to anyone actually in the scene; a good example of this mood is the "What is a Hobbit?" passage at the beginning of "An Unexpected Party;" perhaps a better one is the passage that introduces Gollum, up until Bilbo shows up. This is, of course, also the main mood of The Silmarillion.)


What characters say, of course, is not the narrator's voice at all -- that would be more in Heinlein's bag of tricks -- though, obviously, the narrator reports what they say: but always reliably.

The way Tolkien handles these voices is (to me) one of his most impressive overall stylistic achievements. I don't believe that there is any place where the reader can't tell in which of these voices the narrator is speaking.

I will now suggest that the omniscient narrative voice is never unreliable. It may be playful, as in the "...that age of the world" fillip you note, but even that bit of rhetoric, while an immense understatement, is completely true.

In the omniscient voice, "no other blade" is an absolute statement that allows of no exception, as is "was never heard again." To take either of them as less than literal is to diminish the magnificence of that admittedly magnificent passage.

As for Dernhelm: Limited point of view. The omnisicent narrator never says that Dernhelm is a unique individual; all we get is what Merry sees and hears and whatevers.

Here's an interesting challenge: can you name any other place in LotR where the omnisicent voice of the narrator says something that, whatever rhetorical devices it may use, is not literally true?
Edited Date: 2024-06-11 11:47 pm (UTC)

Date: 2024-06-13 12:37 am (UTC)
sturgeonslawyer: (Default)
From: [personal profile] sturgeonslawyer
>shrugs< I stand by my statement. Yes, I agree; the om.nar. drops in any time it feels we should know something the character doesn't. But "the omn.narr. says nothing that isn't true," does not mean or imply that it must say everything that is true; if it did, we should never have gotten to the end of Bilbo's party. Either of them.

I did not really expect you to "go searching for other places," etc. I was making a point: that I do not believe that there are any such places.

And precisely what postulates that I have proposed are absurd -- sticking only to things I have said, and not any you may have read between the lines; I am not responsible for those -- and what is absurd about them?
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