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calimac ([personal profile] calimac) wrote2021-04-03 03:19 am

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This is a week old, but it's not out of date. I want to say a little more about the death of James Levine, in the light of Lisa Irontongue's round-up of the coverage.

The main-market obituaries tended to take the "say no ill of the deceased" attitude of describing Levine as a great conductor, and brushing the sexual abuse aside as a minor peccadillo. So glaring was this that it generated counter-obituaries, which not only focused on the abuse but for a topping insisted that Levine was actually a terrible conductor!

Both of these attitudes employ common fallacies. The first is that greatness excuses any flaws. The second is that fundamentally bad people cannot have any admirable qualities.

It's the second of these I want to focus on here. It's one we have no excuse for falling into in classical music. That Richard Wagner and Ludwig van Beethoven were, in their somewhat different ways, appalling human beings who wrote great and beautiful music is a contradiction we've long lived with.

And I think it's important to grasp because my analysis is that the success, critical esteem, and general popularity of Levine's conducting is what made it possible for so long for his abuses to be ignored and denied. He was too valuable artistically and too beloved professionally for the institutions to risk losing him, so they had to brush off the charges. The same was true for his equally vehemently denied health problems, until they grew so severe they could be denied no more.

This has been the case for other abusers. Harvey Weinstein was an enormously successful movie producer. Bill Cosby was a beloved comedian and actor. It took a lot of effort to expose their crimes.

This is not to minimize those crimes. It is to offer a warning in future cases. That a person is renowned or esteemed doesn't mean charges against them are true; there have been a number of false bandwagon accusations (see Operation Midland). But it also doesn't mean they are false, and investigations are needed.
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[personal profile] duskpeterson 2021-04-04 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Here, here.

I would add that no person is 100% good or evil. The standard line is that, if an abuser shows any kindness, it was because they were trying to con the world. In some cases, yes. But it may also be the case that a person is capable of being kind in certain ways and abusive in others. Likewise, if someone is kind to you, it doesn't necessarily follow that they're kind to everyone.

If you try to focus on one aspect of the person to the exclusion of the other, you're not seeing the whole person.

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[personal profile] voidampersand 2021-04-04 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
It is simpler to think of people as being essentially good or bad. The problem, as you note, is that it can lead to abusive behavior being ignored and denied instead of taken seriously. On the other side, it can lead to overreaction against inappropriate behavior.

I wonder how the Greeks managed, with their flawed gods as role models. Not any better than us, I think. Socrates would have a few words to say about it.