You seem to be using some definition of "shipping is shown up front" unknown to me, then.
I just made a test run through Amazon - for which I already have an account - and, after logging in and choosing an item to purchase, had to do the following, each on a separate page:
1) go to my cart (which said how short I was of free shipping, but not how much the shipping of my current order would cost) 2) confirm my shipping address 3) choose my shipping method 4) select my payment method AND go through two pages of ads (one of them for an Amazon credit card, I forget the other) before reaching a "review your order" page which at last told me what the shipping cost would be.
That makes six extra pages after what I would call an "up front" revelation of shipping costs.
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I just made a test run through Amazon - for which I already have an account - and, after logging in and choosing an item to purchase, had to do the following, each on a separate page:
1) go to my cart (which said how short I was of free shipping, but not how much the shipping of my current order would cost)
2) confirm my shipping address
3) choose my shipping method
4) select my payment method
AND go through two pages of ads (one of them for an Amazon credit card, I forget the other)
before reaching a "review your order" page which at last told me what the shipping cost would be.
That makes six extra pages after what I would call an "up front" revelation of shipping costs.