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calimac ([personal profile] calimac) wrote2013-06-29 09:13 am

intellectual jokes

Here's a good thread that was sent me from Reddit: What's the most intellectual joke you know?

I haven't read all of these, not by a long shot, because the thread is a very long shot indeed, but my favorite of the ones I read was:
Two women walk into a bar, and talk about the Bechdel test.
Delving into my own meager mental file of jokes (I like jokes, but I can rarely remember them) produces two that I heard at SF conventions in the early 1980s that stuck with me. If they're on the Reddit thread, they're way down there somewhere. One is merely a portrait, a sad tale:
The computer programmer was found dead in the shower, in his hand an empty bottle of shampoo. The label read: "Lather. Rinse. Repeat."
The other is a simple riddle.
Q. Why did Douglas R. Hofstadter cross the road?
A. To make this joke possible.
There's also my small and select collection of Polish jokes that aren't insulting to the intelligence of Poles, but I'll leave those for now.

My question for you now about the above 30-year-old jokes, especially if you're no more than a decade or so older than the jokes are, is: are they obsolete? Do endless loops still exist in computer programming language, and, if so, do today's programmers know about them? And does anybody still remember Douglas R. Hofstadter? Once upon a time, his name and work came up constantly in conversations around me, but now he's almost as vanished from the common discourse I hear as is the then equally ubiquitous Julian Jaynes.

[identity profile] holyoutlaw.livejournal.com 2013-06-29 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Here's something from Buzzfeed that was circulating Facebook just yesterday:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/jokes-only-nerds-will-understand


[identity profile] kalimac.livejournal.com 2013-06-29 04:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that's a selection from the Reddit thread. There's only a few of them (4, 12, 14) that I needed an explanation for.

17, which is a variant on one of mine, irritates me because it's sloppy. If the programmer is that literal, he won't know what to do with the first loaf of bread after he picks it up.

20 was invented by Isaac Asimov in one of his F&SF columns.

10 is usually told specifically about the Dalai Lama rather than a generic Buddhist monk. I once saw a horrifying video in which a reporter, interviewing the Dalai Lama, actually tried to tell him this joke. The Dalai Lama didn't get it.

[identity profile] holyoutlaw.livejournal.com 2013-06-29 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Now that you mention it, the jokes have Reddit headers. I hadn't noticed.

There's a reply joke to #10.

The hot dog vendor makes the hot dog and serves it to the monk. The monk hands the vendor a $20, who puts it in his cash box. After a bit, the monk asks, "Where's my change?" and the vendor replies, "Change comes from within."

[identity profile] kalimac.livejournal.com 2013-06-29 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, change comes from within. It comes from within the cash box. Please give me my change.

[identity profile] vgqn.livejournal.com 2013-06-29 05:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Your programmer joke made me laugh!

4. Mu is the coefficient of friction
12. I think the third logician is able to give a definite answer for all 3 because the first two gave indefinite answers? Hazy on this one myself.
14. A pascal is a unit of pressure defined by one newton per square meter, where a newton is a unit of force.

It took me a surprisingly long time to work out Oct 31 = Dec 25.

I disagree about #17. It's not about an infinite loop, it's about an indefinite referent, "Pick up a dozen [of ?]" More a logic/linguistics joke than a programmer joke.

[identity profile] kalimac.livejournal.com 2013-06-29 10:10 pm (UTC)(link)
What makes 17 a variant is the taking the instructions literally, and that's less a function of logic than it is of having to spell out everything explicitly if you're programming, at least in BASIC, which is the only computer language I know anything about. The problem with it is that "pick up a loaf of bread" doesn't explicitly include "and then buy it and bring it home." He should be still standing there in the store holding the loaf, because he hasn't been told what else to do with it.

[identity profile] whswhs.livejournal.com 2013-06-30 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
If 10 is the one whose punch line is "Make me one with everything," I have never seen or heard it told about the Dalai Lama. I think I've most often heard the setup as "What did the Zen Buddhist say to the hot dog vendor?"

The recent book on humor co-authored by Daniel Dennett uses this joke to show the cognitive structure of a badly told joke:

A man says to a hot dog vendor, "Make me one with everything"—oh, and the man's a Buddhist!

[identity profile] kalimac.livejournal.com 2013-06-30 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
The classic humor book How To Be a Jewish Mother by Dan Greenberg includes a section on how to tell a joke, which might as well be how not to tell a joke. It begins with the philosophy that the punchline is the best part, so start with that.

[identity profile] steepholm.livejournal.com 2013-06-30 01:47 pm (UTC)(link)
"Enjoy."
Edited 2013-06-30 13:48 (UTC)